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No naturalistic explanation for Near Death Experiences with Hamza Tzortzis

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    I was also a Muslim when I had my NDE in 2004 and was left utterly baffled by the image of God with a face which looked like Jesus but about 6 feet tall and the body would have been proportionally huge. I've been researching thousands of NDEs since then and so far come across only one NDE where the temporarily dead person saw prophet Muhammad along with others like Buddha, Shiva and Jesus. Majority who encounter a being, encounter Jesus. So it became v clear to ne that Jesus is far superior to all other beings. And along with the many contradictions in the Quran, I left Islam. None of the NDEs ask about your religion. The life review is about one thing only, how kind and good you were to others. That's all God cares about..

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    Jesus Christ still performs miracles

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    🌹 Holy Quran 🌹

    brother christians take 1 minute form your time and read these verses from holy quran ❤

    (( سورة الإخلاص ))
    Surah chapter numer 112

    قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ (١)

    Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, (1)

    ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ (٢)

    Allah, the Eternal Refuge. (2)

    لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ (٣)

    He neither begets nor is born, (3)

    وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُۥ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌۢ (٤)

    Nor is there to Him any equivalent (4)


    (( سورة مريم ))
    Surah Chapter number 19

    تَكَادُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتُ يَتَفَطَّرْنَ مِنْهُ وَتَنشَقُّ ٱلْأَرْضُ وَتَخِرُّ ٱلْجِبَالُ هَدًّا (٩٠)

    The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation (90)

    أَن دَعَوْا۟ لِلرَّحْمَـٰنِ وَلَدًا (٩١)

    That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son. (91)

    وَمَا يَنۢبَغِى لِلرَّحْمَـٰنِ أَن يَتَّخِذَ وَلَدًا (٩٢)

    And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.(92)

    إِن كُلُّ مَن فِى ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ إِلَّآ ءَاتِى ٱلرَّحْمَـٰنِ عَبْدًا (٩٣)

    There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant.(93)


    (( سورة النساء ))
    Surah chapter 4

    يَـٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ لَا تَغْلُوا۟ فِى دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا۟ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ أَلْقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَـَٔامِنُوا۟ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا۟ ثَلَـٰثَةٌ ۚ ٱنتَهُوا۟ خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَـٰهٌ وَٰحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحَـٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِى ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلًا. (١٧١)

    O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

    لَّن يَسْتَنكِفَ ٱلْمَسِيحُ أَن يَكُونَ عَبْدًا لِّلَّهِ وَلَا ٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةُ ٱلْمُقَرَّبُونَ ۚ وَمَن يَسْتَنكِفْ عَنْ عِبَادَتِهِۦ وَيَسْتَكْبِرْ فَسَيَحْشُرُهُمْ إِلَيْهِ جَمِيعًا. (١٧٢)

    Never would the Messiah disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor would the angels near [to Him]. And whoever disdains His worship and is arrogant – He will gather them to Himself all together. (172)


    سورة المائدة
    Surah chapter 5
    وَإِذْ قَالَ ٱللَّهُ يَـٰعِيسَى ٱبْنَ مَرْيَمَ ءَأَنتَ قُلْتَ لِلنَّاسِ ٱتَّخِذُونِى وَأُمِّىَ إِلَـٰهَيْنِ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ ۖ قَالَ سُبْحَـٰنَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِىٓ أَنْ أَقُولَ مَا لَيْسَ لِى بِحَقٍّ ۚ إِن كُنتُ قُلْتُهُۥ فَقَدْ عَلِمْتَهُۥ ۚ تَعْلَمُ مَا فِى نَفْسِى وَلَآ أَعْلَمُ مَا فِى نَفْسِكَ ۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّـٰمُ ٱلْغُيُوبِ (١١٦)

    And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.(116)

    مَا قُلْتُ لَهُمْ إِلَّا مَآ أَمَرْتَنِى بِهِۦٓ أَنِ ٱعْبُدُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ رَبِّى وَرَبَّكُمْ ۚ وَكُنتُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًا مَّا دُمْتُ فِيهِمْ ۖ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيْتَنِى كُنتَ أَنتَ ٱلرَّقِيبَ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَأَنتَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ شَهِيدٌ (١١٧)

    I said not to them except what You commanded me – to worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness.(117)

    إِن تُعَذِّبْهُمْ فَإِنَّهُمْ عِبَادُكَ ۖ وَإِن تَغْفِرْ لَهُمْ فَإِنَّكَ أَنتَ ٱلْعَزِيزُ ٱلْحَكِيمُ (١١٨)

    If You should punish them – indeed they are Your servants; but if You forgive them – indeed it is You who is the Exalted in Might, the Wise."(118)

    قَالَ ٱللَّهُ هَـٰذَا يَوْمُ يَنفَعُ ٱلصَّـٰدِقِينَ صِدْقُهُمْ ۚ لَهُمْ جَنَّـٰتٌ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا ٱلْأَنْهَـٰرُ خَـٰلِدِينَ فِيهَآ أَبَدًا ۚ رَّضِىَ ٱللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا۟ عَنْهُ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ (١١٩)

    Allah will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will benefit from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, Allah being pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment.
    لِلَّهِ مُلْكُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ وَمَا فِيهِنَّ ۚ وَهُوَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدِيرٌۢ (١٢٠)

    To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent.(120)


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    I like his articulation.

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    The scriptures are completely irrelevant to the NDE phenomenon and even an afterlife. Especially the abrahamic religions. Every NDEr becomes less religious afer their experiences and realises religions are utter bs. In addition to that reincarnation which is verified in multiple NDE testimonies, is not compatible with the abrahamic goatfuckers' religions.
    Yes afterlife exists. But you will be surprise to see who is running the show there. Those that destroyed the pagan classic world will suffer eternal punishment

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    Nobody (based on the NDEs I've seen) have seen Mohammad but many have seen Jesus in their NDEs. Jesus not necessarily as God, but as someone close to God or someone significant. Hardly anyone has seen Mohammad. The NDE God is close to a Christian Universalit idea of God.

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    NDE's dont completely fit the Abrahamic view either. People dont get punished or thrown in hell for not believing. Whether youre a believer, unbeliever, homosexual, straight, Muslim, non muslim, it doesnt matter as long as you were good to other humans. During their life reviews they were shown how their actions affected others.

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    funny how you make these supernatural claims yet instead of giving evidence you present us with jargon-filled hypotheticals and then from that conclude that whatever deranged manic who wrote the bible knows everything there is to know

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    Why do non Muslims recall being in heaven aren't they suppose to go to hell? Islam says non believers go to hell

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    "And yet it happens" You say, but do some research, and you find out these are ALL stories! Good stories, but they are ALL FICTIONAL!!!! But people wish to believe all sorts of silly nonsensical stuff, so they do! But what does it mean? NOTHING!

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    First guy commits a fallacy. Just bc we don’t have an explanation, doesn’t mean your assertion is likely, or even possible. 2nd isn’t even worth mentioning.

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    Read Ihya Ulumuddin by Imam Abu Hamid Al Ghazali

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    There are some explanation and many questions. It may well have a naturalistic explanation.

    Yet again, the answer to the question 'we don't know' has to be god for the thiest. A gap, therefore god.


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    It appears Muhammad did not know this would happen

    Sahih al-Bukhari 1039 Narrated Ibn `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (p.b.u.h) said, "Keys of the unseen knowledge are five which nobody knows but Allah . . . nobody knows what will happen tomorrow; nobody knows what is in the womb; nobody knows what he will gain tomorrow; nobody knows at what place he will die; and nobody knows when it will rain.".

    The Non Believers created ultra sound that sees what is in the womb, and weather satellites that show when it will rain.

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    Closest thing to explain NDE in a 'scientific' way is Susan Blackmore. But I think her arguments are still weak as to experiences of people are extremely vivid.

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    we've been 'alive without breathing" in our mothers womb and this realm gave us some clue about "alive without breathing realm" hereafter

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    The Purpose of Life

    “Did you think that We (God) created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us (God)?”Qur’an 23:115

    Life is a test which ends in death, but it does not mark the end of one’s existence. Once death arrives, the opportunity to do good ceases. It will be too late to repent and our fate will be determined solely by our beliefs and deeds that we do in our current life. Man's life is divided into two parts: a brief stay in this world, and an eternal life in the next. Any sane mind will conclude that eternal bliss is far more beneficial than short lived pleasures on Earth.

    Allah created mankind and made us responsible for our actions by granting us freedom of choice, and intelligence to discern right and wrong. If there were no afterlife in which the good were rewarded and the bad punished, that would contradict the perfect justice of Allah.

    Hence it is an absolute demand of justice that there be a Day of Judgement on which every soul is brought to account.

    “Shall We then treat the People of Faith like the People of Sin? What is the matter with you? How do you judge?”Qur’an 68:35-36

    The Day of Judgement

    “Death, from which you are running away from, will certainly catch up with you. Then you will be returned to the Knower of the Unseen and the Visible (i.e. Allah) and He will inform you about what you did.”Qur’an 62:8

    Everyone’s deeds in this life are meticulously recorded and preserved, as Allah says:

    “And the Book (of Deeds) will be placed open, and you will see the sinful in great terror because of what is recorded therein. They will say, "Ah! Woe to us! What is this book that leaves nothing small or great, but takes account thereof!" They will find all that they did placed before them. And your Lord does injustice to no one.”Qur’an 18:49

    We will be amazed by the accuracy of such a record of all our actions, as we will be reminded of matters long forgotten. Allah says,

    “Allah has kept account of it, while they have forgotten it.”Qur’an 58:6

    Thinking deeply on this should make us ashamed of committing any sin while knowing that it will be recorded against us and exposed on the Day of Judgement in front of Allah.

    For those who doubt Allah’s abilities to resurrect and judge them, Allah quotes the disbelievers as saying:

    “ ‘Who will give life to these bones when they have rotted away and became dust?’ Say (O Muhammad), ‘He will give life to them Who created them for the first time! And He is the All-Knower of every creation!’ ”Qur’an 36:78-79

    Paradise and Hell

    Those who believe in Allah as the only God worthy of being worshipped, and perform good deeds, will be rewarded with Paradise.

    “Verily, the dwellers of the Paradise, that Day, will be busy in joyful things. They and their wives will be in pleasant shade, reclining on thrones. They will have therein fruits (of all kinds) and all that they ask for.”Qur’an 36:55-57

    Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) narrated that Allah said: “I have prepared for My righteous slaves such excellent things as no eye has ever seen, nor an ear has ever heard, nor a human heart can ever think of.”

    This is in sharp contrast to the people who deny the Oneness of Allah, who will be told:

    “This is the Hell which you were promised! Burn therein this day, for that which you used to disbelieve.”Qur’an 36:63-64

    For the disbelievers is the worst of punishments:

    “Indeed, Hell has been lying in wait for the transgressors, a place of return, in which they will remain for ages [unending]. They will not taste therein any coolness or drink except scalding water and dirty wound discharges – an appropriate recompense [according to their evil acts]! Indeed, they were not expecting an account, and denied our verses with emphatic denial. But all things We have recorded in a Book. ‘So taste the penalty, and never will We (God) increase you except in torment.’ ”Qur’an 78:21-30


    “O man! What has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Most Generous? Who created you, fashioned you perfectly, and gave you due proportion. In whatever form He willed, He put you together. No! But you deny the Recompense (reward for good deeds and punishment for evil deeds on the Day of Judgement).”Qur’an 82:6-9

    “Indeed, the righteous will be in pleasure, and indeed, the wicked will be in Hellfire.”Qur’an 82:13-14

    Death is inevitable. Our purpose in life is to worship Allah alone, perform acts of righteousness and to avoid all that is forbidden. Our fate is being decided on the basis of our present actions, so we can either make use of our opportunities on Earth to ensure an eternal place for ourselves in Paradise, or we can waste them and condemn ourselves to eternal punishment in Hell.

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    Alhamdulillah we are Muslims.

    “Every soul shall taste death.” Qur’an 29:57

    Death is Near

    "Wheresoever you may be, death will overtake you even if you are in fortresses built up strong and high!" Qur’an 4:78

    Death is the reality from which none can escape. It draws nearer every day; every hour; every minute. According to the CIA’s The World Factbook 2007, almost two people die each second. That’s a staggering 57.9 million people each year! Every single being will reach this inescapable fate, regardless of their age, health, background, social status or piety. Where are the past kings, the billionaires and the powerful? Where are the once beautiful, the famous, and the intellectual elite?

    The Reality of Death

    Death is not a disaster, but simply a passing from this world onto the next. It should make us reflect and ponder about the purpose of life, and what will become of us after death.

    Allah (God) has informed us in the Qur’an that He has created us with the purpose of worshipping Him alone and that He made this life a test to see who will fulfil that purpose:

    “And I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to worship Me.”Qur’an 51:56

    God has also informed us the purpose behind the creation of death and life:

    “Allah is He who created death and life to test you as to which of you is best in deed.”Qur’an 67:2

    One does not prepare for death by pre-paying funeral services or selecting a coffin in advance. It is about fulfilling one’s purpose in life – to worship Allah alone, to live according to His commandments, and perform good deeds. The concept of worship in Islam is all encompassing and is not merely restricted to praying. In fact, any action that is pleasing to Allah is considered an act of worship, and a person will be rewarded for it.

    The Moment of Death

    “Let every person consider what they have sent ahead for tomorrow.”Qur’an 59:18

    Every day we see examples of death. We perceive a peaceful death as one with neither pain nor violence. However, this is not necessarily the case. When a person dies, the soul leaves the body, and so the physical appearance of the body may not reflect the situation of the soul. The peacefulness or unease of the soul will be a direct result of how well a person fulfilled their purpose in this life, and has little to do with the cause of death.

    Consider an example of two people who have a one-way ticket to a destination they have never been to before. The first person takes the time to learn about the language, culture and practices relating to the destination. He acquires the right currency and vaccinations, and when it comes time to travel, he arrives without any surprises. He is safe and content, because he has taken the time to prepare.

    In contrast, the second person is careless in his preparations and simply lives for the moment until the time comes to depart. He arrives at the unknown destination scared and confused. His unpreparedness causes him to end up with a dreadful fate, as all of the things he has brought with him were of no use.

    Describing such a heedless person, Allah says in the Qur’an:

    “When death comes to one of them, he says, ‘My Lord, send me back! So that I can do good in the things I neglected.’ By no means! It is a mere word that he speaks.”Qur’an 23:99-100

    Also consider the response of those people consigned to hell, when they are questioned regarding what put them there:

    “They will say, ‘We were not of those who prayed, nor did we feed the poor. And we used to enter into vain discourse with those who engaged in it, and we used to deny the Day of Recompense (the Day of Judgement) until there came to us the death that is certain.’ ”Qur’an 74:43-47

    We all have an appointed time with death, and we will all travel to this unfamiliar destination. Ask yourself – have you prepared for it?

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    Interesting subject but they are not braindead. I dont think you can ever turn back from that state…

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    And most people reporting NDE’s mention Jesus.

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