In this video we look into African Spirituality and It’s untrusted claims.
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African Spirituality is diverse wether its in millions or not and Christianity is a white man's religion. Why they were forcing people to be Christians?
They killed a lot of people why?
I only watched half and allow me to say this… Don't allow yourself to be objective when making an argument because the same could be done to you. Allow African spirituality to be flexible and not be the same all round, because even our own Christianity is just that… Besides the different congregations and doctrines we have just in SA, how many more all around the world are far from our ways of worship, yet still Classified as Christianity… If we don't allow the same privileges to others, are we not hypocrites of sorts?
Pastor you are out of depth; go do some more research. You lack objectivity, and you state opinions as though they are facts.
African spirituality is also new to most Africans, most of it doesn't resonate with our African beliefs especially us in southern Africa. Many who carry it's banner were/are not born in Africa nor Southern Africa (yes I know Maponga from his time in solusi college, he knew no African spirituality beside what we still do today), it's still the same westerners in our color or Naijas trying to recruit us. Every tribe has their own norms, values and beliefs, leave it at that and no further, what they want us to believe as African spirituality undermines our traditions too. So Voetsek, if you don't preach it in our way, Africa is not one tribe, one country ✌️✌️✌️
Christianity killed 90 million people and the reason why Africans are critical of Christianity is that it has made Africans to think that God is white and Satan black. Even the Ethiopian bible did not originate in Africa. In India there are more than 4000 religions and African was similar to India because even the original name of Africa meant the land of dieties. The university of Timboktu was the first in the world and had books about everything including our spirituality. Even the bible says Moses studied the spiritual arts of Egypt for 40 years. In Africa the temple was a place where people studied African spirituality and it had 360 degrees and the colonizers took the books and have divided those degrees in their secret societies like Freemason that has 33 degrees. Now they call it secret societies and they are hiding that knowledge from us who are the owners. The 360 degrees has all the concepts that you will find in all African spiritual systems. Colonizers even took our Gods and they are worshiping them till today and dominating us while we are suffering with the bible
Africans must burn the bible and go and and get their knowledge from secret societies. Good and read the sixteen world saviors, papal bulls, the letter the Leopol 11 wrote to missionaries in Dr Congo. Read about the slave bible. Read about Zambeto in West Africa.
Ancient Egyptians were blacks and was the center of all African knowledge
Truth above everything, jesus is a myth jesus never existed, where is his grave too, black people are lazy thinkers😢Christianity is a man made system
African Spirituality is not new in Africa, African spirituality was the way of life way before the arrival of Europeans and their Religions
Pastor why not focus on what you're taught because spirituality is practiced within the context…nobody said African Spirituality Is the most important than any "religion"again the concept of Spirituality is a universal concept please do your research before you come here and make yourself a joke.
No Mr. Christianist, first of all you're trying to explain African spirituality without doing your proper research. What you're saying here is totally utter nonsense because it shows you clearly don't know what is African spirituality.
Youre fundermentalist, you're defending the Christian religion that you yourself don't know where it started.
You're speaking about Africans worshipping Ancestors, NO we don't worship ancestors in African spirituality but we honor them, we respect them and they are the ones who protect us. In african spirituality we worship the creator.
When doing rituals its not a sign of worshipping them but a sign of respect and acknowledging their existence. For example, when we do birthday parties for people, by that we are not worshipping them but we are acknowledging them. So you clearly don't know what you're talking about Mr. Fundermentalist
There is nothing real that is called African spirituality. It is just a deception from the god of this world. He uses all kinds of religions to make sure that as many as possible don't get to know God. I used to respect Mr Motshekga's viewpoint but now I realize how much lost he is.
African Spirituality existed before Christianity did, it's not something new and it's funny how you defending Christianity instead of your own Spirituality
So you also wanna become pastor as well? Because it's start here on YouTube 😩then BOOM! sekangumfundisi
Sorry Sir African spirituality is not a belief nor religion. You said that people who practice African spirituality insults Christians in open debate, so this video you posted here on YouTube about African Spirituality is not an insult to "African spiritualist". This is not a debate it an insult for i will insult back. Christians tend to insult when losing in the debate because their beliefs is questionable. You'll don't want us to question your beliefs. Atleast African Spirituality is questionable and you get answers to all your questions even though it take some time or years to be answered.Any one that questions christainity you'll call that person Satanist, telling that person he/she will go to hell. Isn't that an insult? We tell we don't worship ancestors and here you are telling us that we worship ancestors. Pastor if you where talking about Jesus no "Afrin Spiritualist" would have commented here that shows how matured they are. But once you insult us we insult back we won't be quiet for we know what we are doing. With all due respect, You know nothing about African spirituality wherever you got that little infor from it lack many things and African Spirituality is deep you don't learn it, it lives within everything thats alive. It just that there are some connections missing here and there,it needs to be activate. Restored at somepoints. We African spirituality practitioners love peace, and African Spirituality accomodates every religion. It just that christianity and people who follows it thinks they are than African Spirituality and people who practice it. No matter how educated the child is he/she will never be great than his/ her parents.
In Afrikan Indigenous Spirituality which you clearly don't know anything about, we don't believe in Afrikan Indigenous Spirituality but we know we experience it bhuti pastor you only believe in Christianity because you don't know it you have no Spiritual experience but a mental experience.
This is a Religion that killed and Raped our ancestors enforcing them to believe and accept Jesus, we can never shy Away from that. You are an Enemy to your ancestors whose bloodshed because of Refusing this Religion.
The only people saying Christianity was not a white man's religion are the same black mentally colonized people. What archeological evidence is there of Jesus's existence. What archeological evidence is there that he is black? The Christian must feel small – because his prefrontal cortex is damaged by following blindly a dogma that was brought by their Colonisers.
You must have a broader than the Bible knowledge and understanding of life in order to dirvoce yourself from the colonial lie of Christianity. Because you cannot use the lies in the Bible as evidence and not provide any other evidence to support your argument.
For instance now, we know the Bible is NOT the Word of God. It was written by Scholars 300 years after the supposed existence of Jesus, scholars who had no interaction with Jesus nor Moses nor any other character in the Bible. Your argument that the Bible is the word or cannot merely be just quoting a verse.
Most of you Christians use the Bible to justify the Bible which frankly is a cat chasing its own tail.
African Spirituality is not limited to culture and traditions – African Spirituality is broad – practiced within the African context. Each and every tribe is not locked or boxed into one way of worshipping. Polytheism is not belief in one God. It is the existence of many gods or dieties that we interact with, those dieties serve the Supreme Creator. We don't worship ancestors – we honor and respect them. We don't need to respect biblical ancestors when we have our who who ACTUALLY do show up in dreams and visions and guide and protect and show us the way. They are co-creators because they were given the physical power to create us in the flesh.
Because they are spiritual parents they connect and communicate with us via dreams and visions. Do not limit African Spirituality to tribal differences. If you go to Pedis and to those Nigerians – you'd find more common spiritual ways between. Their lifestyle is informed by Spirituality in the African context and NOT based on a book. There is no need for there to have a book. It is a connection with Devine beings, acknowledging we are spirits, acknowledging that other spirits exist and interact with us. Even if there might be differences here and there but the concept and context is the same – connecting to the Superior Being, via Dieties, via ancestors and following teachings and revelations, dreams, visions also, of those who are called to guide us. Like INkosi YoMoya IMboni uZwi Lezwe, INkosi Shembe, iNkosi Kimbangu, iNkosi Nxele etc. Unlike following fictional characters whose existence is unknown and whose history has been distorted for many centuries to suit the coloniser's mission of Slave Obey Your Master as you would obey Christ. Who was the slave and who was the master. That is why everytime you say "Master Jesus" in your churches because you as a slave, see the Master in those white blue eyes.
Colonial Christianity – all those people there, who are also ancestors by the way including the colonial Jesus you say is black – those people are dead, they are someone's ancestors. NOT OURS.
The story of Jesus is a farce. His grave does not exist.
Lasty the most popular version of Christ that is out there is White, in movies, imagery, art. Even if Jesus was black go to the streets to the flock (the sheep) ask them a simple question. What race/colour is Jesus Christ? Ask them. So why does it suit the Coloniser if the black man follows a white savior and consequently a white god? Because then it will take a long time for the black man to reach spiritual maturity. They will have to rely on the crutch of the tangible Bible to interact with the spiritual beings – which is impossible. So you remain in a cage without chains. Those invisible chains will limit your understanding and you will spend the rest of your life looking for answers from the Bible. Answers your own Indigenous Spirituality has.
Free yourself from the mental chains of the colonial Christianity my Brother.
African spiritualy is the way!
Another thing Africans have different tribes I agree, different cultures and traditions – if you were to dig deep into those cultures they were NOT informed by the Bible. They were informed by Spirituality, someone spiritual advised, a dream, a vision guided them to perform that ritual or carry out that cultural act as a solution to a recurring problem. Be it cleansing ritual, restoration ritual, chasing away even spirit ritual, ukuqinisa iKhaya, ukuthwasa or spiritual initiation…
All those we put under the umbrella of African Spirituality because they are informed by Indigenous Spirituality not Eurocentric ways of living like the colonial Bible.
As of 2024, there were approximately 45,000 Christian denominations worldwide.
Main groups of Christian denominations
Catholicism:
The largest denomination, making up about 48.6% of Christians
Protestantism: Includes many groups with different beliefs and practices
Orthodox: Makes up about 11.1% of Christians
Independent: Makes up about 16.0% of Christians
Restorationism: One of the main groups of Christian denominations
Oriental Orthodoxy: One of the main groups of Christian denominations
Eastern Orthodoxy: One of the main groups of Christian denominations
Church of the East: One of the main groups of Christian denominations
Some examples of Christian denominations
Pentecostal
Presbyterian
Lutheran
Baptist
Apostolic
Methodist
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Jehovah's Witnesses
La Luz del Mundo
Iglesia ni Cristo
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These denominations practice the same colonial religion called Christianity DIFFERENTLY.
Yet you still put them under one umbrella called the body of Christ.
So please don't use different languages and cultural geographic origins as a way to divide Africans and assume to give direction on African Spirituality.
Fix your house first. Have a dialogue with your own first and decide on whether christ is black or white. Where his grave is.
Why you preach one Bible in different ways. Who was the slave and who was master.
Ask yourselves serious questions on the many contradictions in the Bible.
Can i ask do you have a clear understanding of African spirituality?
One thing you should understand Christianity has damaged us so much mentaly.
To understand African indigenous Spirituality you just need to be on Sober mind and favouring a religion
Mntakwethu I want to be very clear with you! We, followers and practitioners of African Indigenous Spirituality have spiritual experiences. That is why you can fool your Bible buddies with Sunday school hogwash and flawed analysis on African matters.
Some of us were also practicing colonial Christianity after being convinced by preachers stirring up emotions and mentally manipulation. We woke up one day in front of an African Spiritual Guider, iNkosi YoMoya UZwi Lezwe Radebe. Who took us on a spiritual journey.
We never had any spiritual experiences of ANY religious occurrences nor religious figures nor any accounts in the Bible. Nalo Jesus wenu akaveli ngokomoya let alone archeologically. Akaveli Mntakwethu but ayavela asikhomba indlela. Asikholelwa kubo, siyabazi there is a difference. We don't believe in ancestors.
We know of their experience through spiritual accounts. None of the biblical hogwash shows up in our dreams and visions. Sihamba ngalendlela sihamba ngayo xola Mntakwethu. Musa ukulahlekisa abantu ngokuxoka ngeAfrican Spirituality. If you need assistance come we will teach you. We will guide you and I guarantee you.
When you have experienced it nothing else will matter. Instead of being worried about your biblical titles and positions – and the flock leaving the churches – please worry about yourself first your spirit – ukuba owakho umoya uyophelela phi. Because your own ancestors are waiting for you in the spiritual dimension. Pastors, Papas, Bishops, Mfundisis, etc are up in arms because they have no spiritual calling to guide on African Indigenous matters.
The flock WILL leave, accept it or be crippled by it! The only thing you know is the Bible. Unfortunately if you limit your life to a book you will never live your life spiritually. Buyani Mawethu, ixesha alikho.
Let's talk about the damage Christianity has done to you, paster. My child has more wisdom than you, pastor. You're an example of what religion was trying to achieve (a morden slave)
You need to go back to school and the hospital to develop your logic .cause wow, you have none at all 😂😂
The problems start when you bring in Religious jargon to Spiritual matters "worship" we don't worship ancestors in Africa we recognize and honour our ancestors. We understand that they have more spiritual wisdom and power than us coz they are in the spiritual world. Anyway I am content to "worship" my ancestors than to worship a Jewish ancestors
African spirituality doesn't not limit Africans from Practicing their spiritual practices regardless of where they are in African. In Nigeria they can do what they do as long as it's withing African Practices it's fine in Zim they can do ilthe Same in SA also etc. as long as we don't allow Eurocentric ideologies to contaminate our spirituality we all good. We subscribe in polytheism not monoism hence there is no one founder and text of African Spirituality
Stop your nonsense don't talk about African Spirituality
Useless Pastor finding your people lies and poisoning their minds