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Is Religion the Problem? Christians vs New Age Spiritual

   June 6, 2025  40 Comments
Is Religion the Problem? Christians vs New Age Spiritual



What happens when Christians sit down with spiritual channelers, modern mystics, and non-religious believers?

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0:00 Intro
0:37 Traditional religion gets in the way of knowing God
21:21 People don’t need saving, they need awaking
31:50 Feeling guilty for sin is unnecessary
40:50 Has your mind changed?

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40 thoughts on “Is Religion the Problem? Christians vs New Age Spiritual”

  3. Spiritualist will always win. Truth prevails wether a debate is lost. New Age is simply a derogatory insult, because you are boxing people in. Spiritualist is a personal interpretation ofa primarily eastern spirituality. In fact christianity has been 100% proven wrong due to historical evidence.

    i have been investigating the origins of the bible obsessively. Reincarnation has mountains of evidence. Kids will sometimes tell you things from a past life. Then people investigate this claim and find out the kid knew exact details of things they should not know. What do you christians think? Satan just implanted these thoughts to decieve man? Get the f*ck out of here with that stupidity. Thus phenomena has been documented over and over. Sometimea from professors.

    Here are the facts though. You can check it out. The Hymn of Akhenaten(mid 1300bc) looks eerily similar to Psalm 104 (1000bc to 400bc). If you review them side by side there is no debate it was inspired. So someone brought Akhenaten material to Judea after the Egyptians tried wiping his reign from history. Amarna (Akhenatens capital) was not found till the 1800's.

    Then there is the Baal Cycle from Canaan. There are verses all over that were were taken and put in the bible and alightly altered too. That was the same area israel was first recorded in 1200ish bc. In the Early days Israel was henotheistic. The forerunners in their religion were Yahweh( in one illustration depicted as a bull), Asherah (Baal's wife which eventually became Yahweh's wife), Baal, and El (Yahweh eventually absorbed El's title as the head god).

    Their Monotheism was not adopted til 500bc. During that time it was not popular. It was not til 400bc til it was popular. Even then not everyone bought it. There were small gaps of people.

    The new testament era was sketchy too.
    Paul for example has books not written by him. Atleast 3 because they looked at the writing style. Each writer has a distinct style. 3 were written by other people. Then there are other authors with the same problem.

    Then there is the Council of Nicea. Now many people argue the decided what books go in the bible. That is correct to be debunked myth. Here is what they actually decided. They decided Jesus was god under Constantine's council. There was an opponent to this and his name was Areus. Keep in mind the Roman's were a corrupt empire. So anyone that agreed with Areus was put on the backburner. The decision was made before the council was even gathered. The pro Constantine Jesus is god followers got benefits from the empire. The pro Areus people got the shaft. The verdist was the Empire gets to make decisions on religion. Not the facts.

    So was there a Jesus figure? Probably so, but his teachings had to be butchered. Personally I think his true teachings are the Gospel of Thomas and some of the Nag Hammadi.

    Then there are book in the bible that were written by anonymous authors like Paul. Some other books were found out to be written by authors after they were dead. There are also words in ancient hebrew that were cherry picked by apologist. Some words have 4 of 5 meanings. Elohim is a plural noun. It translates to "the powerful ones". Trying asking chatgpt if that is correct also.

    Ok from another frame of mind I would argue the fact god of the bible showing favoritism to allowing people to go to heaven is a direct indicator of the religion being BS. Here is what I mean. If I am correct unborn infants, newborns, and people who never have heard of jesus get a free ride to heaven. So that is favoritism to an all knowing entity. Then you have kids being born in muslim countries for example dieing homless on the streets. They know who jesus is, but were dealt a horrible hand. There is almost no chance for them to get to your heaven. How about the glue huffing kids in africa. So basically god gave them no chance.

    Btw there are people who have never heard of Jesus. The uncontacted tribes like the sentenilese and amazon tribes. If you think Jesus is required for them it makes your case worse. All christians can do is ignore my evidence and bark. This is not a debate.

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  4. I dont follow any specific religion but explore many, nor do I follow new age trends, but I am consumed by spirituality.
    These topics always leaves out the awakened souls.

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  11. I grew up Christian i studied history after i left it Christians in general are ignorant about history. That's not a good thing. History repeats itself. Thei holocaust the crusades the witchtrials. Calling those people false Christians does not change history or facts. Choosing to ignore history has serious consequences. If Christianity was true hitler whould not have done what he did and neither would many serial killers. Christianity is oppressive

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  16. How does someone get booked to participate in one of these conversations? One of the most frustrating things about watching some of these types of conversations is proper representation of each side. I understand the spiritual side has potential to be very fluid and all over the place depending on the individual but when it comes to Christianity, there are scriptures that warn against young Christians getting a platform. I appreciate these two brothers being bold enough to come on your channel to talk about their experience and their walk with the Lord, but we cannot forget that the truth has been entrusted to us believers and our ability to articulate the truth to the rest of the world.

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  20. Many religions are open enough, and have the wisdom to know, that there is not ONE single true religion. That all paths lead to the same place, ultimately. It is too bad many Christians are still very narrow in their thinking. Likewise, the New Age community has misappropriated religion, especially Eastern religion and have done much harm in this way. You can not hodge-podge together your own path and expect it to be beneficial. The point of almost all religions is genuine connection to the Divine and ultimately union with the Divine. From a non-dual perspective, the goal is realization of the true nature of the self and phenomena, which is Divine in essence. Sadly, the New Age approach only increases one's ego by falsely believing they can create their own path.
    I think religion is important to give a person structure in their practice. That said, I also think there are many issues with religion and that it can indeed hinder authentic spiritual practice and experience. Things aren't black and white here, there are many facets to this subject.

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  22. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO HEAVEN, THAT IS THOUGH JESUS CHRIST……..it is narrow, don't believe the lies there are multiple ways…..you can only be saved though accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

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  26. Ex new-ager, now born again Christian here! I used to be into astrology, the law of attraction, praying to ‘spirit guides’ (aka demons), ‘aligning my chakra’s’, worship of self, worship of the creation (the universe), had LOTS of psychic readings done for me and I watched tarot readings/ astrology readings regularly, had my own tarot card deck that I used, and paid a witch to do (what I thought were harmless and actually helpful) spells for me.
    I started to develop an interest in God and I noticed on my YouTube home page some Christian testimonies were getting recommended to me, I watched a LOT of them, but in the middle of watching one of them, I felt so convicted about my sin that I got down on my knees and apologised to God for all of the sins I had committed, and I put my faith and trust in Jesus Christ as my Saviour for the forgiveness of my sins. God gave me a brand new heart and His Holy Spirit, He made me a new creation in Christ! My desires changed and I just wanted to glorify Him.

    All the new age did for me was lead me into despair, deception and bondage. Jesus Christ is real and He is so, so good.
    Nothing and nobody comes even slightly close to Him, He gives a peace that surpasses all human understanding and a joy that isn't of this world.
    What He offers cannot be found in anything in this world.
    He is the source of peace, hope, joy and rest for our souls.

    When I submit to Him, I am able to do the things I couldn’t do on my own, He gives me new strength and enables me to walk by the Spirit.
    He fills the void inside of me, nothing satisfies like Him.
    Taste and see that He is good!
    Repent and Believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be saved (have your sins forgiven, be reconciled to God, become a new creature in Christ and receive eternal life!)

    “For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,”
    ‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭15‬:‭3‬-‭4‬

    “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.”
    ‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭36‬:‭26‬

    “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”
    John 14:6

    ‭‭”Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you.”
    ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭27‬a

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  27. Am not the best but their is lots of things i wouldve said for the Christian side. This was not a good even back and forth because the spiritial side was not challenge at all by the Christians. I felt that both side were agreeing with each other and that should not happen because the bible does talk about or againt mediums and thats what the spirit sides are technically claiming what they are.

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  28. 1 large problem with Christianity in America are kids are raised in the church without being taught the gospel. Instead, theyre taught they are a child of God and God lives inside them. Demons decieve them into letting them in because they think its the same thing theyve alwayd been taught.

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  31. Here's a line of questioning that I've never gotten an answer to…. If it's established that God is all knowning, omni present, created everything, etc, then why 1) did he create angels with ability to rebel against God if God knew it would happen?, 2) God then makes Adam / Eve and the Tree of knowledge but knew they would eat from it, so isn't that setting up a perfect creation to fail? 3) Caused the flood to cleanse the world and yet sin still came back again, but God knew that intense sinners were yet to come (WW1, WW2, Crusades, Inquisition, etc)? 4) Sent Christ but people kept on sinning anyway, even if God could have not made or allowed sin to be part of existence? and 5) If creation was perfect before the eating of the apple, then who created Sin? Did God give Adam / Eve a micro power of creation enough to put things in a perfect situation that went against God? Did something else have the power to override God's perfect creation by allowing sin? Did God make sin simply because it's within God's creation, and all things come from God?…….Few ever try to find the logic behind these questions….

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  32. I can relate to the spiritual woman…I spent my childhood getting in trouble for asking questions. The more hostile they got, or if they didn't answer, was another crack in my belief.
    I always had a deep sense that "christians" had the wrong idea of god. Going to church was so triggering for me because I could literally feel the falseness of everyone. It was agonizing.
    Discovering the Gnostic texts told me what I've always known. I couldn't believe because I wasn't supposed to. Now that I know True Source, and that the biblical "god" was a false and evil creation by the church to control people, my world feels so much bigger.

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  33. W New Age Spiritual People
    🇺🇲 🌎 🩵 ❤️ 😊 🪷 👽 👁 ✨️ 👑 🐦 🌹

    L Christians 👹

    I'm an Ex Christian. 😊
    Is Religion the problem? YES.
    Christianity is a satanic cult.
    The Bible is not meant to be taken literally. It is an Encoded metaphor.

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  35. The place where you go where someone is speaking from a pulpit is NOT spiritual. That is indoctrination. Spiritual meeting places form in a circle and are NOT limited to one set of religious beliefs.

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  36. The fact that people still act like we're living in a flinstone era where the other part of the world has never heard about Christianity or Jesus Christ, like we're not living in a modern world where we can easily access the whole wide world with just clicks. It's literally 2026 my guy. There are so many Christian children in India, middle East, and basically everywhere. The jungle people now has aesthetic houses for tourists. Like………

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  38. 2:15 Crazy thing is it is disputable that Jesus couldve actually been a fallen angel himself.

    In buddhism it is said that there have been buddhas rhat chose to go to "hell" or lower consciousnesses, so they could save people and try to change things, known as boddhisatva.

    So say in heaven at some alien realm, people deliberately prayed that they could go down to a place like Earth to preach the messages of peace and freedom righteousness and compassion.

    It's like prometheus stealing fire from the Gods to provide that enlightenment to his fellows.

    If anything bigotry is what is evil and divisive. Saying your set belief system is the only one worth following is making enemies out of millions and billions of people unnecessarily – if that isnt wrong idk what is.

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