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Debunking the myth of the Lost Cause: A lie embedded in American history – Karen L. Cox

Apr 2023 26



Examine the myth of the Lost Cause: a campaign created by pro-Confederates after the Civil War to promote the lie that they seceded for state’s rights.

In the 1860’s, 11 southern states withdrew from the United States and formed the Confederacy. They seceded in response to the growing movement for the nationwide abolition of slavery. Yet barely a year after the Civil War ended, southern sources began claiming the conflict was about state’s rights. How did this revisionist history come about? Karen L. Cox examines the cultural myth of the Lost Cause.

Lesson by Karen L. Cox, directed by Anton Bogaty.

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48 Comments

  1. #1

    I'm still voting Trump

  2. #2

    Amateur perspective.

  3. #3

    Globalist propaganda

  4. #4

    The death of the Confederacy was the death of what the founding fathers wanted. The Confederacy was the true path of American freedom. So sad and a complete tragedy that the Confederacy lost the war of secession. How different and how grander America would have been had the Confederacy won.

  5. #5

    This is all false. 5 northern states had slavery even after the war .

  6. #6
  7. #7

    This rhetoric was going on since before Lincoln was even a candidate in the Republican Congress. That guy didn’t create it.

  8. #8

    Funny how some still proudly wear the traitorous flag though.

  9. #9

    History needs to show us ourselves warts and all but it also needs to show us moments of strength and beauty. I should never be allowed to write the history of my ex because of my inherent bias.

  10. #10

    There is no race, religion or nationality that has not at some point been enslaved. Human beings are cruel creatures. Suffering and slavery are not exclusive to one race only. The Mexican drug cartels are practicing it as we speak yet little is done to stop it.

  11. #11

    If conservative republican snowflakes feel the need to start yet another civil war (0-2). Real American patriots will just have to win that one too!

  12. #12

    first slavery is just plain wrong, I grew up in South Carolina born 1965. raised up in the 70's and was taught the war was over state rights. the southern states looked for middle ground, but Abe would have none of it. slavery was part of the reason but not like it was the only reason. the federal government was pushing its will on the southern state in high tariffs and taxes, seats in Washington. it's not like every southern had slaves. at the start of the war loads of slaves were already set free in the south.

  13. #13

    I grew up and still live in Kentucky and was taught the Civil War was about states rights and not about slavery. It wasn’t until I grew up and read more that I know the truth about the war starting over slavery. There are signs to this day at historic sites that read, The War of Northern Aggression!

  14. #14

    See guys, history isn’t always written by the victors.

  15. #15

    You have more homework to do to prove your case. Andrew Jackson predicted in 1833 that the South would try to secede again and that they would use the pretext of slavery to do it. South Carolina had already tried to secede over tariffs during the Nullification Crisis. So even if Civil War-era politicians said slavery was the reason, that doesn't prove that it was the root reason, and not merely the pretext, as Jackson predicted. In fact, it could be that later historical revision actually got closer to the truth by setting states' rights as the real reason.

  16. #16

    There were many causes of the civil war. It's pretty irresponsible to focus on just one. There IS such a thing as state rights and federal government overreaching. We're experiencing it again today.

  17. #17

    The Civil War not just a war of North vs South geographically. It was a war of Southern democrats (even the Northern Democratic Party sided with the southern cause) that got all of this free labor against the party of Lincoln, the newly formed Republican Party in 1854. Later, after the confederate South losing the war, the KKK was founded in 1865 as the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party to keep the newly freed blacks in line.

  18. #18

    Do not believe this it total BS. The actual cause was a Federal Export Tax on Cotton. Slavery had nothing to do with it. When you misrepresent history you are wrong. Did you know that Edward Stanton owned slaves after the civil war. Stop lying.

  19. #19

    Not all states were free states ,just on the border line between north & south , and even than it wasn’t whole states , but just a few sparse Counties scattered along the line , and Mississippi didn’t send in the proper paperwork and documents to the Federal Governor until 2013

  20. #20

    This is horse sh.t. The war had NOTHING. To do with slavery.

  21. #21

    I mean, they're not wrong. The war was about states rights but it was states rights TO CONDUCT SLAVERY. The problem with the states rights defense is it's actually true, a half truth. One of the most insidious forms of lying.

  22. #22

    Slavery…and the cotton industry was created by the " merchants" , and the Bankers.
    Many plantation owners were in debt to jo Morgan and Lehman brothers banks in NY.
    Making the Bank the actual owner of everything.
    Less than 2% of southern families owned slaves. Most white's had to farm …pick cotton at times…" Sharecroppers".
    Now do you really believe that they fought so one of the 2% could could own slaves?
    NO,. The civil war was about money…
    The south was bringing gold back to the ports , bypassing the big NY banks as they were no longer indebted to them.
    That's why Lincoln threatened and then invaded the south.
    The southerners fought for freedom from an invading army. Not for slavery.

  23. #23

    There's a lot of misinformation in these comments, especially about the south and what it did or didn't do. The best thing to do is report it, in my opinion. Arguing with them is just what they want.

  24. #24

    My grandfather told me that we have relatives on both sides of War the Civil War was not only about slavery most of the Southern soldiers are just farmers they didn't own the plantations the war was a terrible thing but you can't erase history by knocking down monuments all history is not perfect

  25. #25

    I'm a white southerner from rual florida.im fully aware the war was fought over slavery.can you quess what my favorite flag is ?😈

  26. #26

    I don't see why an entire south would be energized to fight for slavery when a very small percentage of southerners actually owned slaves. What would be their vested interest in preserving slavery?

  27. #27

    The reasons for secession and the reason for the war are two separate issues. The south left the union over cultural and economic differences. It was for the south a constitutional crisis. The south joined a union that was voluntary and the general government is for common defense and external trade not a union that only considered the interest of one section. To understand the reason for the war, you have to understand the northern position. If the south leaves the union it will favor free trade policies. This would have devastated northern industry. Northern politicians in Congress and in the state legislatures said they could not let the south go as it would devastate northern industry. This is the real reason for the war. European bankers wanted to finance the war because they want central banking.

  28. #28

    This is very distorted history. TED should be called the socialist channel. First off, of course the south is pro slavery, and the north is anti Slavery. But what did these terms mean in 1861? You are using presentism to define the terms. The North was Anti Slavery which meant they did not want free blacks or slaves in the territories. Read the Republican Party State platforms.The northerners wanted the territories for free white labor. No blacks allowed. This was not a moral position. Pro slavery meant that slaves could be moved from a southern state to a territory. Both poor whites in the south and north did not want competition from cheap labor. Free slaves would have made the economic plight of poor whites from either the south or the north more difficult. Now we must explain the abolitionist. There were about 20 abolitionist newspaper's with about 200,000 subscribers out of 30 million people. The abolitionist were hated in the north. The abolitionist wanted to free 4 million slaves overnight with no plan with what to do with the freed men. This is why they were hated. They were seener as agitators. These abolitionist newspapers were being financed by wealthy industrialists. The wealthy industrialist wanted capital for infrastructure and handouts for business. They favored a central bank and high tariffs. The south blocked this legislation as it was unconstitutional. Wealthy industrialist wanted new territories that would join the union to side with them on economic legislation in Congress. Around the 1820s they start to agitate for free labor policies in the western territories to get new states to side with them on their economic legislation.

  29. #29

    As a person born in 1951 I have never ever heard that some had pushed that the civil war was about states rights.. I don’t care where or who invented it.. I think it’s a joke to cover up the real reason.. slaves.. Seems a few are trying to rewrite the war between the states.. The war was about slaves.. Nothing else..In the south a few rich people exploited slavery while the common folks went on.. The world of politics and big money created all the issues of the civil war.. Those few in the south with money and slaves wanted more money.. The war was never about states rights. It’s was about slaves period.. I think if a pole was run in 1861 in the south…I would say if a bill or measure was voted on to keep slavery it would lose and perhaps would show 5% for slavery and 90 %against and 5% don’t care.. Thus many in the south were railroaded into fighting a war they did not believe in.. The whole war was about a few rich trying to keep and make more money.. greed period.. Forget get this new lie about states rights..

  30. #30

    When rich dudes are threatened to lose some money, there's going to be trouble.

  31. #31

    A lot of white people died in the Union army to abolish slavery. The abolitionist movement could not have occurred without their efforts and sacrifice.

  32. #32

    Of course this is nonsense and irrelevant.
    It doesn't matter why the states seceded. They had every right to do so. The agreement guaranteed under the constitution states that it is/was a voluntary agreement and specifies no term. As such, as in any other contract, it may be entered into and, as follows, departed from at pleasure or whenever any of its participants finds it favorable to do so.
    What caused the war, because the secession brought with it no violence or aggression to the north, only it sullied their idea of a perfect union and stripped from it a booming economy which it professed to hate but of which benefits it regularly enjoyed and sought to continue enjoying, was the fact that the federal government, along with the northern states, believes that they had the right, despite the document of the constitution and the agreement which it guarantees, to force entire governments to be a part of it's designs, to force their will upon these people who would only be free to do as they pleased.
    The federal government, only upon nearly losing the war, sought to free the African from chattel slavery and instead impose political slavery on the entire nation, Africans included.
    Don't believe it? Do you want to pay taxes? Do you want to be imprisoned if you don't? Do you want to be killed if you resist imprisonment?
    What do people do in prison? Is it simply recreational time? No. People in prison work.
    Who do they work for?
    They work for whatever private entity the government contracts their labor for or else they work for the government itself.
    90% or so of the materials used by the U.S. army are made by prisoners at a rate of between 2 cents and 40 cents per hour.
    That is literally just enough to say, "see, it's not slavery. We pay them. "
    You and I know that is a lie.
    The united states incarcerates more people than any nation on earth ever has. They don't do it because it costs money. They do it because it makes money.
    We are all slaves and this is just another Lincolnian lie used to make you believe that Lincoln was anything other than a despot and a tyrant who enslaved the epitome of freedom and overthrew Jeffersonianism, which set the groundwork for everyone to be free.
    Did they fail, in Jefferson's time, to make Africans free? To recognize the female right? Absolutely. Could we have rectified that without enslaving the entire nation? Absolutely.
    Slavery was abolished. Now abolish the lie.

  33. #33

    It was about states rights. That is to say, a state's right to have slavery.

  34. #34

    The TRUTH will never never die. You cant kill the TRUTH like the Union killed & terrorized the Confederacy.

  35. #35

    This kind of stuff is still happening today in places like Virginia, and Florida where they can't teach any history that might offend someone.

  36. #36

    History is often a rather subjective affair. Much of what passes for history in contemporary society is more a reflection of the zeitgeist than an objective appraisal of long distant events.

  37. #37

    Dispite what the war was about the civil war was a americsn war i beilve that remebering all thise who had something to go eoth the south is wrong just as i belive removing souther monuments from battifleids is wrong or remoivg confatrates from atlingtion is wrong the war was a war dispite the cause war of americans vs american if we chose to sayvtgat those who fought for the south were not coursgus or not american that wr cant use the 600,000 killed price tag

  38. #38

    It was about states rights the states right to own slaves 😂

  39. #39

    This article or video is leaving out a lot of facts like Like how the northern States demanded things of the South the morell tariff. States rights for another. Slavery was an issue but not the issue.
    Check the facts

  40. #40

    Of course this is nonsense and irrelevant.
    It doesn't matter why the states seceded. They had every right to do so. The agreement guaranteed under the constitution states that it is/was a voluntary agreement and specifies no term. As such, as in any other contract, it may be entered into and, as follows, departed from at pleasure or whenever any of its participants finds it favorable to do so.
    What caused the war, because the secession brought with it no violence or aggression to the north, only it sullied their idea of a perfect union and stripped from it a booming economy which it professed to hate but of which benefits it regularly enjoyed and sought to continue enjoying, was the fact that the federal government, along with the northern states, believes that they had the right, despite the document of the constitution and the agreement which it guarantees, to force entire governments to be a part of it's designs, to force their will upon these people who would only be free to do as they pleased.
    The federal government, only upon nearly losing the war, sought to free the African from chattel slavery and instead impose political slavery on the entire nation, Africans included.
    Don't believe it? Do you want to pay taxes? Do you want to be imprisoned if you don't? Do you want to be killed if you resist imprisonment?
    What do people do in prison? Is it simply recreational time? No. People in prison work.
    Who do they work for?
    They work for whatever private entity the government contracts their labor for or else they work for the government itself.
    90% or so of the materials used by the U.S. army are made by prisoners at a rate of between 2 cents and 40 cents per hour.
    That is literally just enough to say, "see, it's not slavery. We pay them. "
    You and I know that is a lie.
    The united states incarcerates more people than any nation on earth ever has. They don't do it because it costs money. They do it because it makes money.
    We are all slaves and this is just another Lincolnian lie used to make you believe that Lincoln was anything other than a despot and a tyrant who enslaved the epitome of freedom and overthrew Jeffersonianism, which set the groundwork for everyone to be free.
    Did they fail, in Jefferson's time, to make Africans free? To recognize the female right? Absolutely. Could we have rectified that without enslaving the entire nation? Absolutely.
    Slavery was abolished. Now abolish the lie.

  41. #41
  42. #42

    The lost cause isn’t a myth.

    It just ignores the presence of slavery as a motivation.

    Proponents of the lost cause, pretending that slavery was not an issue at all, while modern historians have fallen victim to the notion that it was the only cause …

    The reality is the lost cause is a very real thing that was a very real motivation for some states, and some elements of the confederacy. However, the “lost cause“ is a concept that basically arises when all of the people who were absolutely primarily motivated by slavery, attempted to jump, ship over to the states rights and state sovereignty crowd.

    In summary, the lost cause isn’t a myth. It just ignores other proponents.

  43. #43

    The war of Northern Aggression. The South had too much money and those carpetbaggers sought to take it from them. Who commits most of the crime in these "United States"?

  44. #44

    Slavery is profoundly wrong end off🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  45. #45

    What people forget is that The Civil War was actually fought over the Federal Government's refusal to allow the southern States to secede from the Union. And while the secession may have been caused by the Confederacy's intransigence on the subject of slavery, the actual "myth" is that slavery was the cause of the war rather than looking at the economic and political reasons that the Federal government could not "allow" the southern States to secede.

  46. #46

    it is a sad day when the american people dont know the truth ,because they have never been told the truth this so so sad for this great nation

  47. #47

    Wow first point of the video and it's already missing all context and nuances .

    First counter to the narrative . The Fact that there were less abolishionist than there are libertarians today.

    Second counter to this argument is the existence of the Corwin Amendment. You should really do your research and not just regurgitate a post war Justification for a war that had very little to do with Slaves.

    Besides any open minded person who knows history would have to ask themselves if the war was over Slavery why did it take 3 years before the Emancipation Proclamation was signed and declared?

    Answer : because like most wars in history it wasn't over Slavery from the beginning. It was over Economics specifically the Souths adversity to paying taxes. Aka the South didn't want to pay Tariffs.

    This was the case in 1833 when South Carolina and other Southern States which later did Seceed first threatened Secession over Tariffs. Yeah its a boring economic war in which the tactical decision was made mid way through to free Slaves. But only in areas not under Union Control..

    And in reality Slavery ended a year after the war. With the Ratification of the 13th Amendment.

    Oh btw the aforementioned Corwin Amendment passed congress and was in the process of ratification with 5 states that had stayed loyal already ratifying the Corwin Amendment before the other states Seceeded.

    Yeah look up the Corwin Amendment and then come back to this video. You will see how much of the ideal that the war was fought over Slavery is utter BS.

  48. #48

    Again I got another Ted ad on one of their videos.

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